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20 September 2007 @ 09:20 am
KBell friending meme; Eureka  
Quick post.

This mention is probably pointless and a little redundant, since my flist just more than doubled yesterday because of this meme, but I figured I'd still do my part in pimping it, anyway.

candlewaxdreams was getting a little tired of all the apparent VM fandom hate toward Kristen Bell - hate that completely baffles me and piques my curiosity as to "why?".  So she created the friending meme found HERE. If you want to chime in, or see who else still thinks KBell is one of the greatest things since sliced bread, go on over.

And in an unrelated random shout-out (to a show that I've regretfully mentioned only in passing here before), Eureka continues to be a little more awesome each week, in a totally fun and easy-to-watch way.

The last three episodes kind of cemented my love of its humor and pop-culture references, because (a bit spoilery - so skip this part if you avoid that):

-- Two weeks ago, Carter, while investigating strange happenings to certain individuals in town, comes across Global Dynamic's lab of lunar rocks from the moon, with large green crystals growing from them, and stops mid-sentence in his denial of alien life: "There's no such thing as-- oooh, Kryptonite!"  Freakin' sweet.

-- Last week, when supposed supernatural/divine occurrences were popping up, a townsperson brought up the notion that Eureka could possibly be situated on a hellmouth.  That's just made of awesome.

-- And this week, the episode had heavy reminiscings on one of my favorite BtVS episodes ever, "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered". Carter gets to experience a little of the "love mojo" that Xander had to go through, as the entire female population was (inadvertantly) sexually in his thrall. I smiled through the whole thing.

So, sci-fi can be silly and not take itself too seriously, while still also totally entertaining.

That's all for now.





Kristen Bell is awesome.
 
 
 
douchey mctwatwafflesonsloppy_drunk on September 20th, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
I'm baffled as to all the KB hate too. I get so tired of hearing what a media whore she is. I guess some people just always need to have something to bitch about. *shrug*

I love Eureka but I'm behind on it...definitely need to get caught up.
Jeff: VM - take thatj_mac179 on September 20th, 2007 02:42 pm (UTC)
You know, I think those "media whore" spouters are just resentful of her being in demand so much as of late. And to me, when she's got options like Lost, Heroes, Judd Apatow-produced comedies, and a possible return to Broadway, she's doing something right, professionally. TPTB behind those vehicles know she's got talent, probably are aware of her professionalism, and want to lend some serious chops/credibility - as well as a swell of fanboy and fangirl support - to each of their projects.

So what if she attends numerous charity events, premieres, fashion shows, and gets oodles of red-carpet photos. The business is all about exposure (the right kind) and who you know, in addition to talent. She seems to have a level head on her petite shoulders, with the smarts and charisma to succeed for years to come. Good for her, I say - haters be damned.

And Eureka has steadily grown into a weekly-anticipated show for me. It's fun.
Shane: I want to marry her hairhavemy_heart on September 20th, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks for pimping :)

I always see commercials for Eureka, but I've never watched it. What are some of the selling points for you?
Jeff: kristen - obekor - 3j_mac179 on September 20th, 2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
No problem :)

And Eureka is one of those shows that grabbed me at the beginning simply because of its concept - a small town in the northwest that is filled with geniuses; an inventor's haven for new technologies - most of which are related to the U.S. government and sanctioned by the department of defense.

Jack Carter (Collin Ferguson) is a U.S. Marshal who gets roped into an assignment as the town's new sheriff, and his "normal guy" experiences (as a single dad of a teen daughter, too) amongst a community of eccentric brainiacs lead to a lot of misadventures and comedic antics. But there is also a slowly revealed storyline involving a more serious mystery about a clandestine alien artifact housed at the town's primary corporation for future technology development - Global Dynamics.

The show has progressively grown on me because of the interpersonal relationships among the characters (which is always my strong preference for shows), and we learn more and more through their respective layers. It can be silly with a touch of serious sci-fi, and continually improves.

Again with the rambling, lol...
Shane: Veronica leather jackethavemy_heart on September 20th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC)
Thanks! That actually makes me want to watch it now.
houses: Rich Dude Kryptonitehouses7177 on September 20th, 2007 03:27 pm (UTC)
*closes eyes to avoid spoilers*

I loved KB. Why the hate? She's lovely and did a marvelous job with the character. Weird.
Jeff: VM - LoVe - 1.21 kissj_mac179 on September 20th, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
I think the animosity stems from Kristen's less-than-enthusiastic opinion of the Logan/Veronica 'ship. Some fans feel this may have influenced how she played Veronica harder and darker toward Logan over the course of S3, but I don't buy it. Also, that she had some diva-like behavior around set - again, with the "WTF?" from me, based on my experience.

While I have issues with the way The CW forced some things for S3 at Rob Thomas, I think Kristen's professionalism supercedes her own feelings on characters, when they're written well. I think some die-hard Jason/Logan fans were transferring his up-and-down treatment in S3 to Kristen's doing, but I find that hard to swallow - and Logan's my favorite character on the show, too. Even if she hadn't said publicly how much she loves working with Jason, or if she privately had some disdain on set, why would he absolutely fawn over and gush about her and their work together at every turn?

Fandoms can divide and crumble when too much wank gets involved. I've seen it happen numerous times.
houses: Not Cool Dudehouses7177 on September 20th, 2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
AH. I think part of this is I never really participated in the VM fandom, just loved the show. The Logan/Veronica arc seemed perfectly reasonable in S3, to me, having watched other relationships malfunction in college, and Veronica had to deal with so much more than any one should. I found the character to be occasionally off-putting, but reasonably so, and the way they left things didn't make me think they were over forever and ever amen. *shrug* But I'm not a shipper and never was. I'm in whatever fandom for the story, not for the lovin'. I loved Logan, I loved Veronica, I was perfectly willing to accept LoVe functional or otherwise.

I've always thought KB acted professional and adorable in any interviews/events I've seen her at. Diva? Not a word I would use to describe.
Jeff: VM - LoVe - 3.07 - fctalkj_mac179 on September 21st, 2007 01:02 am (UTC)
The Logan/Veronica arc seemed perfectly reasonable in S3, to me, having watched other relationships malfunction in college, and Veronica had to deal with so much more than any one should. I found the character to be occasionally off-putting, but reasonably so, and the way they left things didn't make me think they were over forever and ever amen. *shrug* But I'm not a shipper and never was. I'm in whatever fandom for the story, not for the lovin'. I loved Logan, I loved Veronica, I was perfectly willing to accept LoVe functional or otherwise.

*hugs you* I'm just quoting that entire paragraph because I love it so. Big fat WORD. Especially to the bold part. That's how I saw it, too - they are so far from being over. They're EPIC ;)
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Jeff: VM - LoVe - S3 intro 1j_mac179 on September 20th, 2007 04:52 pm (UTC)
KB haters must have personal issues.

And Eureka is a show that's pretty easy to pick up on, mid-story, but you'll appreciate the character arcs more if you can get a chance to start from the beginning. You can really see the marked improvement toward the end of S1, leading into S2.

And my dad watches it, too ;)
Laurasnailey on September 20th, 2007 10:35 pm (UTC)
I agree on the whole KB thing. It baffles me too how people have conjured up these conspiracy theories and gone as far as to believe them to be the complete truth.

People are looking for someone to blame, and they're placing in on the wrong person. Sadly, it happens to a lot of lead stars. Where is all the writer hate?

I would say something to some of the more hardcore haters, but they're so brainwashed theres no point.

I guess people read into things a lot differently.
Jeff: VM - nailed mej_mac179 on September 21st, 2007 12:56 am (UTC)
People are looking for someone to blame, and they're placing it on the wrong person. Sadly, it happens to a lot of lead stars. Where is all the writer hate?

Couldn't have said it better. Actors can only do what's given to them on the page, and my issues with S3 lie squarely in how the production was tinkered with by CW network honchos. That interference trickled down to what the writers were forced to create, conforming to those asinine "mini-arc" stipulations and supposed "hooks" and book-ended episodes to get and maintain new viewers. IMO, while still better than 95% of other network TV, those changes in S3 altered the dynamic of what made the show brilliant in seasons 1 and 2. And the fans noticed, to say the least.

The CW is showing itself this season as a network trying to appeal to the youngest demographic, while stooping to some of the lowest common denominators in programming to do it. I mean, another frakking Pussycat Dolls season? More Beauty and the Geek and Top Model? FARMER TAKES A WIFE?!? If it weren't for the last gasps of Smallville and the best show they have now - Supernatural - the network should be written off completely. I honestly hope it tanks in the next year or two. Seriously.

*sigh* O-kaaay. Sorry for the venting. Guess I had to get that off my chest, lol.
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Jeff: that is big - smgj_mac179 on September 21st, 2007 12:57 am (UTC)
Oh yes. It's much fun. And Collin Ferguson is kinda the bomb. I'll be buying every season of this one on DVD, too, however long it lasts.
FriedMarsBars: coffeefriedmarsbars on September 21st, 2007 01:28 am (UTC)
Hi there! I'm one of the people who friended you from the KB meme.

I'm actually a little baffled at all the KB hate too. And what I really don't understand is that they seem to be holding her to a different standard than the rest.

Take the whole "media whore" thing. So she goes to a lot of premieres/parties and gets photographed with a lot of other stars. Why do they seem to be so offended that she's doing this? She's an actress. In Hollywood. They all do that.

In short, KB is awesome :-)
Jeff: VM - Dick - upchuckj_mac179 on September 21st, 2007 11:57 am (UTC)
Welcome! And I agree with your idea of Kristen being unfairly held to a different standard, for some reason. Thank God we actually get some (positive) exposure of someone who has a surplus of talent and charm and is actually worthy, to help offset the media glut we get about the Lohans, Hiltons, and Spears of the world.

Here's a c/p of my thoughts from above, on the "media whore" nonsense:
So what if she attends numerous charity events, premieres, fashion shows, and gets oodles of red-carpet photos. The business is all about exposure (the right kind) and who you know, in addition to talent. She seems to have a level head on her petite shoulders, with the smarts and charisma to succeed for years to come. Good for her, I say - haters be damned.

And for many months now, "Kristen Bell is awesome" has been sort of my signature at the end of every post, regardless of topic or subject. I just throw it in there because she is ;)
winter_dreams86 on September 21st, 2007 03:06 am (UTC)
Word to this entire post. :) It seems to me personally (and this would be based on comments from people on my flist) that people project their hatred of S3 onto Kristen Bell herself, as if she's single-handedly responsible for the "downfall of the fandom." *rolls-eyes*

So you're the second person I've heard/read who mentioned Eureka. I'm thinking I need to educate myself on this show.
Jeff: LoVe5j_mac179 on September 21st, 2007 12:15 pm (UTC)
Thanks - and welcome! I of course agree that the transferrence of some fans' disappointment with S3 into anger/dislike of Kristen as the cause is absurd.

I think a disproportionately large segment of the fandom (females, naturally) is/was way more into Jason and Logan than Kristen and Veronica, so when the writing got a little sketchy as Logan's role became more up-and-down, and Veronica's trust issues worked a number on him, those fans sadly decided to pile that resentment onto Kristen, since she's the lead. And since she was never a big supporter of LoVe anyway, those fans feel some kind of 'justification', I guess, so I'm right there with ya on the eye-rolling.

And as I've said above, Eureka is just fun and so easy to watch. Not too serious, but with some technical sci-fi aspects that still make it kinda nerdy, which I like.